Finally, the US government is trying to actually educate citizens on EVs instead of leaving it up to us and conspiracy theorists. Plus it has a great emissions calculator for your EV in your region. [Electric Vehicle Myths | US EPA]

Finally, the US government is trying to actually educate citizens on EVs instead of leaving it up to us and conspiracy theorists. Plus it has a great emissions calculator for your EV in your region. [Electric Vehicle Myths | US EPA]

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Finally, the US government is trying to actually educate citizens on EVs instead of leaving it up to us and conspiracy theorists. Plus it has a great emissions calculator for your EV in your region. [Electric Vehicle Myths | US EPA]



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13 thoughts on “Finally, the US government is trying to actually educate citizens on EVs instead of leaving it up to us and conspiracy theorists. Plus it has a great emissions calculator for your EV in your region. [Electric Vehicle Myths | US EPA]

  1. And you think the conspiracy theorists are actually going to believe anything that is on a federal gov’t website? LOL

    When you believe that EV’s are the spawn of Satan there isn’t much going to change your mind.

  2. Finally? They have had educational resources for years. Look up DOE Clean Cities Coalitions and the Alternative Fuel Data Center. I am the President of the Board for a Clean Cities Coalition and they do amazing work.

  3. fueleconomy.gov has had emissions calculator for _years_ now, and includes most EV models back to 1996. Ironic that EPA is so late to this when energy.gov has been providing the data for so long.

  4. Oh boy… only 1 thing I don’t like is #4 45000 stations. Let me put this in perspective theres only 5k walmarts in the US. That is 9x more then that. Ok how many of those are not plugshares from a private community or in a parking garage that’s only open Monday thru Friday because it’s in a court house or city hall. I can make that number smaller if we are talking about only specific types of charger connections too. And then how many of those are functional.

    This is bad information that too broad to make a claim and will trick people.

    I know eventually this won’t be a problem but to make this claim right now will hurt the cause.

  5. I get much better numbers in southern Illinois, but luckily we have a great roof for solar so we went that route with 100% offset. Our electricity rates just went up and my electricity went from $150/month in the summer to $340. Our loan on the solar is $200/ month so roughly the same but a little less each month averaged. The M3LR was only a little more than our previous car we sold to get it so it ends up saving us $25 a month and is MUCH better for the environment. THAT is how you get to the naysayers. Just tell them overall it’s cheaper and they won’t care about the emissions part. Also, get them to test drive a model 3. Don’t deal.

  6. As it says on that page, how much pollution the EV contributes is very dependent on how the electricity for the grid is powered. If it’s coal, fuel oil, or natural gas, you also have to take into consideration the fact that extraction of those minerals from the ground is extremely dirty. One of the biggest sources of air pollution is just from the drilling, pumping, transportation, and refining of crude oil. The extraction of minerals for the batteries is also very dirty.

    So, yeah, EV’s are better, but the difference is probably not as huge as the EPA makes it out to be. Estimates vary, and as I said above, cannot be entirely predicted. They are not the holy grail of stopping climate change. Personal transportation is only a small fraction of the total CO2 put into the atmosphere. Even if that sector made zero CO2 emissions, not much would happen regarding the future of climate change. If it makes you feel better, then cool, do it. Just don’t think that you’re changing the world by driving an EV.

  7. EV’s aren’t any more “sustainable” than any other mode of transportation, except I suppose walking. The definitions of sustainability are:

    the ability to be maintained at a certain rate or level.

    and: avoidance of the depletion of natural resources in order to maintain an ecological balance.

    Recycling EV batteries is a joke. Only about 5% of batteries are ever recycled, generally. That means that new EV’s are going to continue to need natural resources, even if the other materials used are 100% from recycled materials. Given that almost all plastics are not recyclable means that crude oil will continue to be required to make new EV’s. Given also that one average tire requires about 1 barrel of crude oil means that oil will continue to be required to make and maintain EV’s. Therefore, these vehicles do not meet the definition of sustainable.

    As to whether or not the adoption of EV’s for personal use are going to save us from climate change, the answer is no. The facts are that personal passenger vehicles account for only ~12% of the total CO2 emissions; 45% of 24% from here:

    [https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions-from-transport](https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions-from-transport)

    The help, for sure, but they are not the saviors people make them out to be. Certainly, the gov’t is overstating the benefits they will have on the environment. The best thing you can do is to reduce the CO2 emissions per person per mile by carpooling to work, among other shared riding. To expect a 9,000 lb. EV SUV to be environmentally sustainable is a complete joke.

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