Purchasing Advice and General Discussion Thread — Week of September 12, 2022

Purchasing Advice and General Discussion Thread — Week of September 12, 2022


Need help choosing an EV? Have something to say that doesn’t quite work as its own post? Vehicle recommendation requests, buying experiences, random thoughts, and questions on financing are all fair game here.

# Is an EV right for me?

Generally speaking, electric vehicles imply a larger upfront cost than a traditional vehicle, but will pay off over time as your consumables cost (electricity instead of fuel) can be anywhere from 1/4 to 1/2 the cost. Calculators are available to help you estimate cost — here are some we recommend:

* [https://www.chargevc.org/ev-calculator/](https://www.chargevc.org/ev-calculator/)
* [https://chooseev.com/savings-calculator/](https://chooseev.com/savings-calculator/)
* [https://electricvehicles.bchydro.com/learn/fuel-savings-calculator](https://electricvehicles.bchydro.com/learn/fuel-savings-calculator)
* [https://chargehub.com/en/calculator.html](https://chargehub.com/en/calculator.html)

# Are you looking for advice on which EV to buy or lease?

*First, see if you match any of these cases we see most commonly:*

**Located in USA/Canada, budget of \~$50K, looking for a Crossover/SUV BEV:**

* Hyundai Ioniq 5
* Kia EV6
* Volkswagen ID.4
* Ford Mustang Mach-E

**Located in USA/Canada, budget of \~$50K, looking for a Crossover/SUV PHEV:**

* Toyota RAV4 Prime
* Hyundai Tucson PHEV
* Kia Sorento PHEV

**Located in USA/Canada,** **budget of \~$35K:**

* Kia Niro EV
* Hyundai Kona EV
* Chevy Bolt / Bolt EUV
* Nissan Leaf

**Located in Europe, budget of \~€/£30K, looking for a hatchback:**

* [Peugeot e-208](https://ev-database.org/car/1583/Peugeot-e-208)
* [MG ZS](https://ev-database.org/car/1540/MG-ZS-EV-Standard-Range)
* [Renault Zoe](https://ev-database.org/car/1236/Renault-Zoe-ZE40-R110)
* [Renault Megane E-Tech](https://ev-database.org/car/1536/Renault-Megane-E-Tech-EV40-130hp)

**Don’t fit the above patterns?** Tell us a bit more about you and your situation, and make sure your comment includes the following information:

>\[1\] Your general location
>\[2\] Your budget in $, €, or £
>\[3\] The type of vehicle you’d prefer
>\[4\] Which cars have you been looking at already?
>\[5\] Estimated timeframe of your purchase
>\[6\] Your daily commute, or average weekly mileage
>\[7\] Your living situation — are you in an apartment, townhouse, or single-family home?
>\[8\] Do you plan on installing charging at your home?
>\[9\] Other cargo/passenger needs — do you have children/pets?

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*If you are more than a year off from a purchase, please refrain from posting, as we currently cannot predict what the markets and choices will be at that time.*

# Check the Wiki first.

Don’t forget, our Wiki contains a wealth of information for owners and potential owners, including:

* [EV Databases](https://www.reddit.com/r/electricvehicles/wiki/index/evreleases)
* [Dealer Markup Tracking](https://www.reddit.com/r/electricvehicles/wiki/index/dealermarkuptracker)
* [General Resources](https://www.reddit.com/r/electricvehicles/wiki/index/resources)

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7 thoughts on “Purchasing Advice and General Discussion Thread — Week of September 12, 2022

  1. Anyone have a recommendation for a model that fits in small garage (10×20), or has features that make it easier to use? We have a Bolt right now and while getting in/out of the garage is fine, it’s a tight squeeze for passengers and tough to get cargo out of the rear seat. We don’t have a driveway and parking on the street is a bit precarious so there’s not a good workaround.

    The Ioniq 5 seems like a good option since it has a sliding center console, and we could use that to park closer on one side while both exiting from the other, but my partner doesn’t like the look of the car. Looking for features like that, or automated folding mirrors, etc. I’ve been looking at car widths but it’s not the only thing that makes a difference.

  2. Has anyone tried getting a commitment from a dealer to stick to MSRP for a sale? I’m considering reaching out to dealers and telling them that I’ll order with them if they promise no markup. Does this seem like a viable strategy?

  3. I don’t know if I’m allowed here 🙂 but I’m unfortunately getting rid of my MME and picking up an Escape PHEV. We bought a motorhome and needed a small SUV we could tow easily, and the Escape is the only electrified SUV I found that can be towed four-down.

    The Escape comes with a 110 plug, but is there a decent, portable charger that can easily handle 110 or 220? Obviously it’s not as big a concern with a hybrid as with a pure BEV but I’d like to be able to take advantage of charging on the go.

  4. Hi everyone-

    The 2023 Model Year Lincoln Corsair got a refresh (announced today) and it looks great! However, the website already says deliveries will be in 2023. That’s sad because I assume it won’t qualify for the EV tax credit once the calendar page flips to January. Yes, I would want the PHEV. I had been hopeful that it only being September, cars might hit lots by end of year.

    There are basically 3 “Packages” on the Corsair. The mid-level, which would be our minimum, places the car at $57,520. To get the ActiveGlide feature, which seems really nice for road trips, is the highest package and another $6,000. Oof.

    The good news is that I qualify for A-Plan pricing so that should knock about 10% off the MSRP I would guess.

    Because of our access to Plan Pricing, my initial thought is that the Corsair is a better buy than a Model Y as it should come in around $10,000 cheaper. And it’s more “us” – nicer interior, proper SUV height/feel, etc. But we’re not anti-Tesla by any means.

    But if we really want to stretch and get the top trim with all the features, it might be closer to the same price assuming the MY qualifies for the tax credit next year.

    Thoughts between the two? Are there any other PHEVs or BEVs we should be considering at this price point? (Note we have firmly ruled out the ID4 and Q4, and the C40 doesn’t have the range we require).

    **TL;DR: Corsair vs Model Y pros and cons? Any others to consider at the mid-50k price point? Does anyone know if Ford/Lincoln vehicles will meet the battery requirements for 2023?**

  5. This is great. Thanks for posting. What’s the reason the Ford Escape PHEV is not on this list? It’s got better mpg than the RAV4 Prime and a better all electric range than the Tucson. It’s got great specs but doesn’t seem to be a highly recommended vehicle.

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