U.S. EV adoption is happening faster than anticipated

U.S. EV adoption is happening faster than anticipated

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U.S. EV adoption is happening faster than anticipated



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  1. My motive wasn’t gas prices. I bought a Tesla because my town is populated mostly by idiots who panic-buy gasoline. The shortages caused by the Colonial Pipeline hack/shutdown in May ’21 were the last straw. It wasn’t even supposed to affect my town but the idiots heard “gas shortage” somewhere, then the next thing I saw were the pendejos literally trying to fill trash bags with all the gasoline they could hoard. And God forbid my Florida town be in the projected path of a tropical storm.

  2. People are tired of the gas game. Prices go way up, oil companies get use to the new all time high profits so they cut production soon as prices start to fall. The US gives billions in subsidies to oil companies and US oil exports are also at all time highs. They are shipping our tax supported oil to Europe where they can get a lot more money for it and couldn’t care less about $6 a gallon gas back home.

    Charging an EV by whatever means (coal, natural gas, solar, hydroelectric, nuclear…) means using locally produced power, local jobs supporting that power and even the ability for the user to charge with their own solar power. Can’t make your own gas at home.

  3. Bought a Model Y in 2020 as a second vehicle, wow! It’s no longer a second but instead the first. Holds $4 worth of juice and goes 300 miles. In two years I’ve charged away from home once. Absolutely nothing like it.

  4. I think one of the big drivers of EV adoption is relatively undiscussed; people just plain hate being chumped at the gas pump. They’re fed up with being ripped off by Big Oil. Even more than wanting to for the Right thing for the environment, I think this is a big and underappreciated factor.

    I believe the same thing is happening in the consumer solar power industry, as well. Now, let’s talk about the confluence of these two trends; ENERGY INDEPENDENCE AT THE CONSUMER LEVEL.

    That is an awfully attractive prospect!

  5. Just picked up my new Bolt EUV. I had a Volt a few years back that I loved. I’ve been an EV proponent for a long time, somewhat for the environment and energy independence, but mostly because it’s an exciting industry that I always saw as the future for automobiles, and I love the torque and the lack of maintenance. Maybe I’m petty, but I think one of the best things about this EV tidal change is that when I come up against those same anti-EV zombie arguments I’ve encountered for years (battery life, charging time, the grid, coal-powered, etc.) I no longer have to bother trying to argue. I just say, “EVs are here to stay, they’re taking over, and there’s nothing you can do about it, so get on board or get left behind.” Then I enjoy the meltdown.

  6. I want my next vehicle to be an EV because I’m tired of maintenance on ICE vehicles. Every vehicle I’ve had past 6 years needs continuing maintenance and part replacement. I take good care of my vehicles too. The lower maintenance of electric vehicles is extremely attractive to me.

  7. The biggest driver of EV adoption this decade is going to be that gas stations will start to close down. Most gas stations make very little profit now as it is, and are only reasonably profitable at all because they sell huge quantities. But if even 10% of the gas consumers removed from the market, that will cause a major economic collapse in an already very shaky system. Most won’t survive that and will close down making gas harder to find.

    Sooner than you think, the “where will you charge” question will change to “where will you fill up?”

  8. For me it was a combination of factors, but the knowledge of the sheer efficiency of electric cars was utterly fascinating to me. The idea that little energy is lost to sound, heat and the interactions between hundreds of moving parts but instead delivered entirely to the wheels (and silently, too) was very compelling.

    That, coupled with the fact that as the energy generated to supply the grid gets greener, so does running my EV? I would never *want* to own another ICE car again.

  9. It’s just like all the solar naysayers 5-10 years ago. “Solar’s only 1-2%, will never mean anything”. Now, “solar’s only 10-15%, will never mean much”.

    Just downvote the trolls & move on.

  10. “Faster than anticipated.” LOL. By whom? Boston Consulting Group?

    Maybe an unpopular opinion in this subreddit, but this transition is happening just as fast as many of us expected.

    Yes, that means it’s happening faster than some pessimistic experts, but that’s not really a surprise.

    I guess just keep adjusting your estimates upward to follow reality.

  11. If you have a $700 a month payment then you add $225 a month for fuel. I believe it wears on people especially if there is alternatives. I was fortunate to get a EV a couple of months ago and can charge at home.

  12. Of course, EVs are better than ICE cars in almost every way. We’re at the start of the “hockey stick” inflection point.

    Which makes me wonder, why do we need EV subsidies anyway, when they’re sold out literally everywhere you look?

  13. There’s a significant amount of evidence that EV adoption is happening faster than anticipated. There’s a significant amount of evidence that climate change is happening faster than utilities anticipated: See [here](https://www.utilitydive.com/news/investor-owned-utilities-underestimate-potential-costs-of-carbon-climate-c/619332/) and [here](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/climate/electric-utilities-climate-change.html) for examples. And yet everyone is confident that utilities are adequately preparing for rapid EV adoption in addition to electrification in other sectors. You all have much more faith in the competency of these companies than I do given their track records.

  14. If I didn’t regularly have to drive 700ish miles and have it take a day, I’d absolutely get an EV. As it stands I’m looking at a hybrid or one last ICE to get me to the next generation of batteries.

  15. I work in the energy sector, and I can assure you that the utilities and regulators (maybe outside of ERCOT) are keenly aware of the increasing demand from transportation electrification (as well as the push for overall electrification). The good thing about EVs and a lot of other new load, is that they generally don’t have to be peak load. A lot of transportation related load can be shifted to nighttime or when peak solar is underway. My utility charges me -$0.01/kWh between midnight and 0600.

    Also, storage (especially short/medium duration storage) is coming on line faster than anticipated. California is dispatching 3 GW of battery storage, right now. This would have been inconceivable a few years ago. And this doesn’t include all the behind the meter storage being deployed. It’s super common for people to get a battery with their solar PV installation, now.

  16. Lots of comments here about factors that influence demand for EVs.

    But demand has outstripped supply for a while now. The speed of EV adoption is driven purely by production ramping up. In the long run, higher demand does push companies to increase supply but that’s a over a longer period. It takes a while to build car and battery factories.

  17. This reminds me of the Solar “prediction” by IEA.

    Every single year like copying pasting formulas they continue to expect gradual linear adoption when in fact it was explosive, exponential adoption. They were underestimating it every single year for like 20 years in a row. It was ridiculous.

  18. We put solar panels and a battery in our house in Australia about 5 years ago. I reckon it has paid me back by now so the savings go straight to the household bottom line now. I got an EV last year and it is costing next to nothing in fuel and maintenance. It cost more to buy it but I reckon the payback is about 5 years – less if EVs hold their value, as I expect they will. EVs and self generation are the only way to go where we are.

  19. Most experts said that, once we pass a certain threshold, it’ll pick up steam on its own. They also say we’ve passed that threshold.

    It’s nice that CA and other states are implementing future ICE bans, but it’s likely not necessary other than creating news and interest for EVs now.

  20. Unpopular opinion but EVs aren’t going to save us either. I have a Volt. Bought brand new in 2017, got 100k miles on it.

    We need LRT and cycling and EVs for appropriate trips.

    Edit: jesusmeme.jpg. They hated him because he told the truth.

  21. Wow half of everybody will have one in 7 years? That’s insane. That’s such a crazy cultural shift. Be prepared for MEGA debate and news articles about this shit sharing misinformation to increase as the decade moves on. Probably will be really bad around 2024-26

  22. I get missing the early acceleration. Its really hard to predict the early slope. Why are they changing the final market share of the S curve? It’s seems like nothing has changed to dictate a change in the outcome of 2040.

  23. The only thing that’s holding me back from purchasing an electric car currently is the upfront sticker price and my local market.

    I’m a single person household and making under $50K a year, in my local market there’s almost nothing USED on the market, and new is ranging from $35-$45,000 CDN if not more, and they’re in short supply, so no wiggle on price. Plus with student loans still paying off. My car payments would push my income over the edge. It’s still cheaper for me to drive my 10-year old gas car, as I just don’t physically make enough just yet. Until I save up enough with a down payment or, the province I live in adds an additional subsiding price to increase supply.

  24. I have a Prius Prime. The lack of EV charging options in my area is why I didn’t go full EV (my workplace is too out of range to rely on charging from my house only). But otherwise I would have gone full electric.

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